Sidi says and the RavDav answers

Submitted by Sidi Mansur:
If Hamas recognize Israel today, and renounces violence, then all will be well and the European Union, the United States and Israel will keep funds rolling to Palestinian Authority, then "HOW ABOUT ISRAEL RECOGNIZING THAT OCCUPATION IS WRONG, AND ENDS IT, AND RECOGNIZING THE RIGHT OF RETURN OF MILLIONS OF PALESTINIAN REFUGEES?"
RavDav answers:
In case you hadn't noticed, Israel is the democratic state with democratic institutions, rule of law and a kickass military. And, oh, by the way Israel now has a very big wall seperating itself from both Hamas and the PA . And if the Palestinians have any hope besides a Civil War, it is they, not Israel that must reform themselves and they must do it soon. Sorry Sidi, reality has a way of trumping philosophical banter. Better luck in your next life.
Sidi says:
You are right RavDav! The nuclear power Israel with democratic institutions, the rule of law and a kickass military (to use your words); the Israel that occupies people who are defenseless; the Israel which builds walls around it as it pleases; the Israel, which is recognized by the EU, the U.S, and the U.N, is still begging to be recognized by disorganized, under-funded HAMAS!
Reality has a way of trumping philosophical banter INDEED!
RavDav answers:
If you're waiting for Israel to commit suicide and give Palestinians the Right of Return, you'll die a thousand times before that will ever happen. In the meanwhile, I'm counting down the days until Fatah and Hamas embroil the West Bank and Gaza in Civil War. I can't tell you how refreshing it will be to see your team killing each other instead of innocent Israelis. In the end, after all the nut-job militants have been forever silenced, Israel will be there; safe and secure behind its Security Fence ready to make a real and lasting Peace with a more humble and compliant Palestinian population. Your type of irrational demands is what is keeping your people down.
Sidi says:
Over 50 years on, it is time for us all to realize that Palestine was not a land without people for a people without land. No irrational demand RavDav, justice for Palestinians to give what rightful theirs it is all what they ask! And remember a journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step, and withdrawal from Gaza was that step. I commend Sharon for his bold step despite opposition and even threat to his own life then. Again yes, it is time we all realize that "PALESTINE WAS NOT A LAND WITHOUT PEOPLE FOR A PEOPLE WITHOUT LAND", and the answer to the conflict lies on this very statement. George Bernad Shaw once said, "No question is so difficult to answer as that to which the answer is obvious" The international community knows the answer, the U.S knows the answer the Israelis know the answer, hence the term "land for peace", but it is amazing how everyone is running away from the answer!!!! THE TRUTH WILL SET US ALL FREE!
RavDav answers:
If you have to go back 60 years to find justification for becoming a Homicide-Bomber, why not go back 160 years and make the same lame case for the American Indians? How about some whacked-out Norwegian Vikings strapping exploding Rosetta Stones to their chests to kill those damn Europeans who had the audacity to set up shop on the American Continent 500 years after Erik The Red first stuck his sword in a Minnesota Rock?
Oh wait, what about going all the way back to the year 70 b.c. when Jews last had a little temple built around the Dome of The Rock in Jerusalem? I guess that would trump your miserable little Palestinian claim by about 2000 years! Face the facts Sidi; in the grand scope of History, your team is owed nothing! Zero, zilch, nada. Now IF you guys start acting like civilized people, i.e. no suicide-bombing, kidnapping or "Death to Israel" rallies and text books, maybe the nice Israelis will give you some more land on the West Bank that you can destroy just like your friends in Gaza did. Now that's the truth - and accepting it will set YOU free.